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1994 BRANDY

Sunday Morning
[...]




1998 NEVER SAY NEVER

Fooled By The Moon
[Diane Warren] [David Foster]

Never Going To Let You Go
[LaShawn Daniels, Jono Kohan, Japhe Tejeda, DarkChild & Uncle Freddie]

Sometimes
[...]

The Best Of You [Not Having You At All] -> Andrea Martin
[Andrea Martin, Ivan Mathias, Soulshock & Karlin]

The Only One For Me
[...]
[DarkChild] [???]




2002 FULL MOON

Can't Control Myself -> Paris Bennett
[Ebony Burks, Tyrice Jones] [Babyface]

Every Bit Of Love
[Shawn Stockman]

Gone From Me
[Lindy Robbins, Christian Ballard & Andrew Murray]

Hey Girl
[PAJAM]

God Gave Me My Way
[Mischke, The Underdogs]

Hurts The Most -> Monica
[Shamora Crawford, Soulshock, Karlin & Biker]

Open
[Mike City]

Save The Babies
[The Neptunes]

TBD F/ Ja Rule
[Ja Rule, ...]
[Irv Gotti?]

TBD
[..., Babyface]




2003 ESCAPE









'Brandy & Raj Jay' [???]
[Brandy, Ray J, Kenisha Pratt, K Young]

Never Too Far -> Olivia
[...]

Never Wanna Let You Go [???] -> Kiley Dean
[Mischke Butler, Big Bert]

She Can't Be Me <- Toni Braxton
[LaShawn Daniels, Chingy, The Trak Starz] [Toni Braxton, Brandy]





2004 AFRODISIAC







Been So Long
[Brandy, Ray J, Kenisha Pratt, K Young, Timbaland]

Bones [???]
[..., Timbaland]

'Brandy & Raj Jay' [???]
[Brandy, Ray J, Kenisha Pratt, K Young]

I Got What You Want [???]
[Kenisha Pratt, K Young, Timbaland]

I Wanna Move [???]
[Candice Nelson, Walter Millsap, Mike City]

Hokis Pokis [Aboracadabora] / Hocus Pocus [Abracadabra]
[Kenisha Pratt, K Young, Isaac Phillips, Timbaland]

Horizon [???]
[..., Timbaland]

Hot [???]
[Candice Nelson, Walter Millsap, Timbaland]

I Got What You Want [???]
[Kenisha Pratt, K Young, Timbaland]

La La Land
[Static, Dr Dre]

Losing Control [???]
[..., Timbaland]

Mmm... [???]
[Candice Nelson, Walter Millsap, Timbaland]

Off The Wall [???]
[Kenisha Pratt, K Young, Timbaland]

One Wish [???]
[Candice Nelson, Walter Millsap, Timbaland]

Silence [???]
[..., Timbaland]

Wish I Never Met U
[Candice Nelson, Walter Millsap, Timbaland]

You Would Never [???]
[Candice Nelson, Walter Millsap, Timbaland]




---2005 Pre-Human I [Maximum Risk]

All The Time
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

B-Rocka
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Beauty
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Boy Friend / Boy Friends
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Criminal
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Don't Say Your Sorry
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Free / Freedom
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Heart Beat
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Honey
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Knowing Nothing
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Lately
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Maximum Risk
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Patience
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Pink Diamonds
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Royalty
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Second Time Around
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Shit Hot Damn MF
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Shivering
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Skin Deep
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Sweet Nothings
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

Tear Drops
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

That Shit [Interlude]
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

That Way
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

[This Is] Our World -> Burhan G
[Kenisha Pratt, Amalie Alstrup, Maximum Risk]

Till You Get Enough
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]

When
[Kenisha Pratt, Maximum Risk]




---2006 Pre-Human II [B-M Cox]

Bring It Back
[..., Bryan-Michael Cox]

Cry
[Adonis, ..., Bryan-Michael Cox & WyldCard]

Love Me The Most
[Johnta Austin, ..., Bryan-Michael Cox]

Sober
[Johnta Austin, ..., Bryan-Michael Cox]

Take Me Back [???]
[...]

You Got That
[..., Bryan-Michael Cox]

TBD
[..., Rockwilder]

TBD
[..., Tim & Bob]




2008 HUMAN

01 Human [Intro]
---[Brandy]
02 The Definition
---[Cri$tyle, DarkChild]
03 Warm It Up [With Love]
---[The JAM, DarkChild & 'Mile]
04 Right Here [Departed]
---[The Writing Camp, DarkChild]
05 Piano Man
---[The JAM, DarkChild]
06 Long Distance
---[Interlude]
07 Long Distance
---[Bruno Mars & PL, Jeff Bhasker, DarkChild]
---[Vocal Production by James Fauntleroy]
08 Camouflage
---[Claude Kelly, DarkChild & D'Mile]
09 Torn Down <- Elliott Yamin
---[James Fauntleroy II, MIDI Mafia & Dapo Torimiro]
10 Human
---[Brandy, Esthero, Lindy Robbins, Toby Gad]
11 Shattered Heart
---[Cri$tyle, LaShawn Daniels, DarkChild]
12 True <- Michael Jackson
---[Claude Kelly, RedOne]
13 A Capella [Something's Missing]
---[TC, LeChe Martin, C-Note, Soundz]
14 1st & Love
---[Frank Ocean, TK, Hit-Boy & Chase N Cashe]
15 Fall
---[Brandy, Natasha Bedingfield, LaShawn Daniels, Brian Kennedy]
16 Gotta Find My Love
---[Brandy, Lindy Robbins, Toby Gad]
17 Locket [Locked In Love]
---[Frank Ocean, TK, Brian Kennedy]


After The Flood
[James Fauntleroy, LaShawn Daniels, DarkChild]

Angel [???] -> Natasha Bedingfield
[Cri$tyle, Rico Love, LaShawn Daniels, DarkChild]

Aquarium
[..., Kevin McCall]

Back & Forth
[..., Eric Hudson]

Box Of Lies [???]
[..., The JAM]

Broken Reflection [???]
[Chasity Nwagbara, ..., BlacElvis]

Casualties
[James Fauntleroy, MIDI Mafia & Dapo Torimiro]

Complete [???] -> Beyoncé -> Lil' Mo]
[TC, Danja]

Dig This
[Johnta Austin, Eric Hudson]

Drive Across The Ocean [???]
[James Fauntleroy, Makeba Riddick, ..., Syience]

Drum Life
[James Fauntleroy, Timbaland & Jroc]

Dry Crying [???]
[James Fauntleroy, TK, ..., Hit-Boy & Chase N Cashe]

Easy [???]
[..., Soulshock & Karlin]

Freedom
[Frank Ocean, TK, T-Wiz]

Glass House [???]
[Chasity Nwagbara, ...]
[Brian Kennedy & T-Wiz] [???]

Grey Area
[Frankie Storm, ..., Brian Kennedy]

Guilty Of Innocence [???]
[Frankie Storm, DarkChild]

Here Standing [???] -> Leona Lewis -> The Saturdays
[Nina Woodford, The JAM]

Home F/ Timbaland
[James Fauntleroy, Timbaland & Jroc]

I Am A Storm [???]
[Chasity Nwagbara, ...]
[Brian Kennedy & T-Wiz] [???]

I Love You But
[..., Kevin McCall]

Idiot Believer
[Candice Nelson, James Fauntleroy, Danja]

In The Ground [???]
[James Fauntleroy, Dapo Torimiro, MIDI Mafia]

Keyed
[James Fauntleroy, ..., Brian Kennedy]

Know You -> Jordin Sparks -> Kenny Lattimore
[James Fauntleroy, Brian Kennedy]

Leave Slow [???]
[Tiwa Savage, G Becker, Oak]

Lie To Me [???]
[Chasity Nwagbara, MIDI Mafia & Dapo Torimiro]

Life After Heartbreak [???]
[..., D'Mile]

List -> Crista
[James Fauntleroy, Rob Knox]

Locked In Love
[Jason Derulo, ..., DarkChild]

Love Language [???]
[James Fauntleroy, ..., The Underdogs & Rob Knox]

Not Another
[Priscilla Renea, ...]

[On] Repeat [???]
[James Fauntleroy, ...]

One Thing
[Frank Ocean, TK, Brian Kennedy & T-Wiz]

[Over] Again -> Esmée Denters -> Natasha Bedingfield
[Bruno Mars, PL, DarkChild & The Stereotypes]

Paint My Skies Blue [???]
[Frankie Storm, DarkChild]

Parachutes / Today
[Frank Ocean, TK, T-Wiz]

Phobia [???]
[Tasleema Yasin, ..., DarkChild]

Pick Me
[..., Kevin McCall]

Porcelain Doll
[Chasity Nwagbara, ..., BlacElvis]

Prayer [???]
[Kalenna Harper, ..., Soundz]

Quickly -> John Legend & Brandy
[Frank Ocean, MIDI Mafia & Dapo Torimiro]

Quicksand [???]
[TC, ..., Full Scale]

Round Of Applause [???]
[TC, ..., D'Mile]

Scared Of Lonely [???] -> Beyoncé
[Cri$tyle, Rico Love, LaShawn Daniels, DarkChild]

Slowly [???]
[Chasity Nwagbara, MIDI Mafia & Dapo Torimiro]

Sober
[Makeba Riddick, MIDI Mafia & Dapo Torimiro]

Somethin' Different [???]
[Rob Allen, ..., D'Mile]

Stand Back
[James Fauntleroy, 'Andrew', ...]
[Andrew Hey, Rob Knox & Harvey Mason Jr] [???]
[Danja] [???]

Stuck In The Mirror
[James Fauntleroy, Eric Hudson]

Surprise Ending
[Frank Ocean, TK, Brian Kennedy & T-Wiz]

Sy'rai
[Frank Ocean, TK, DarkChild]

Tell 'Em
[Eric Hudson]
[Frankie Storm] [???]

Thank Me Later [???]
[Frank Ocean, Tiwa Savage, Brian Kennedy & T-Wiz]

That's All They Ever Talk About [???]
[James Fauntleroy, ..., Rob Knox]

The Way You Are [???]
[James Fauntleroy II, MIDI Mafia & Dapo Torimiro] [Elliott Yamin, Brandy]

There 4 U
[TC, ...]

This Is What It Feels Like [???] -> Beyoncé [???]
[Cri$tyle, Rico Love, DarkChild]

Throw It All Away
[..., Mike City]
[Cri$tyle] [???]

Today [Parachutes]
[Frank Ocean, TK, T-Wiz]

Today Go Away [???]
[Frank Ocean, ..., DarkChild]

Trail Of Tears
[Full Circle, ...]

Undivided [???]
[Lauren Evans, Alex James, busbee, D'Mile]

Uptown [???] -> Melanie Fiona
[Mike City]

When Disaster Strikes
[Claude Kelly, DarkChild]

Who's The Loser Now
[James Fauntleroy, Timbaland & J-Roc]

Zillion
[James Fauntleroy II, Brian Kennedy]

TBD
[James Fauntleroy, ..., D'Mile]
[DarkChild] [???]

TBD
[Kara DioGuardi, ...]

TBD
[Rico Love, ...]

TBD [x3?]
[The Clutch, ...]

TBD
[Keri Hilson, ..., Danja]

TBD
[..., Rich Harrison]




2009 SUPREME [Roc Nation / Epic]

All You Need [???]
[Kalenna Harper, ..., StarGate]

Betcha <- Megan Rochell
[Makeba Riddick, StarGate]

Decisions F/ Ne-Yo -> RichGirl
[Ne-Yo, StarGate]

Disabled [???]
[Stacy Barthe, ..., MIDI Mafia]

Disappear [???]
[Claude Kelly, ..., Syience]

Fear Of Flying -> Alexandra Burke
[Amanda Ghost, Ian Dench, StarGate]

Geronimo -> Kelly Rowland
[Chris Brown, Lonny Bereal, Kevin McCall]

Good Night Good Morning -> Alexandra Burke
[Ne-Yo, StarGate]

I Don't Really Care
[Ne-Yo, StarGate]

I'm Right Here <- Rita Ora <- Elliott Yamin [???]
[Ne-Yo, ..., StarGate]

If They Only Knew [???]
[Makeba Riddick, ..., StarGate]

Louboutins -> Jennifer Lopez
[The-Dream, Tricky Stewart]

Love Part 2 [???]
[James Fauntleroy, ..., StarGate]

Perfect Love [Looking For Love]
[StarGate]
[Amanda Ghost, Ian Dench] [???]
[Claude Kelly] [???]

Poison -> Beyoncé
[Johnta Austin, StarGate]

Romeo & Juliet
[Brandy Norwood, Amanda Ghost, Ian Dench] [StarGate]

Slow Love -> Beyoncé
[Amanda Ghost, Ian Dench, StarGate]

Still Waters [???]
[Amanda Ghost, Ian Dench, StarGate]

Stupid In Love > Rihanna
[Ne-Yo, StarGate]

Supreme <- Whitney Houston
[Johnta Austin, StarGate]

Tell Me You Didn't [???] -> Bridget Kelly
[James Fauntleroy, ...]

The Business [Between Me & You] -> Blue
[Ne-Yo, StarGate]

Thinking About You [???] -> Bridget Kelly -> Frank Ocean
[Frank Ocean, Shea Taylor]

This Song [I Can't Wait]
[..., StarGate]
[Ester Dean, Traci Hale] [???]
[LaShawn Daniels] [???]

Time Stood Still [???]
[Claude Kelly, ..., Chuck Harmony]

Timeless [???]
[Johnta Austin, ...]

Too Little Too Late
[Ne-Yo, StarGate]

Untouchable [???]
[Amanda Ghost, ..., StarGate]
[Bruno Mars] [???]

Wonderful Goodbye [???]
[Amanda Ghost, Ian Dench, StarGate]




2012 TWO ELEVEN

After That [Bran'Nu]
[Brandy, ...]

Beautiful [Bran'Nu]
[Brandy, Erika Hamilton, Hit-Boy]

Can't Cope
[Brandy, Stacy Barthe, Corey Chorus, Theron 'Neff-U' Feemster]

Cigarette
[...]

Clean Get Away
[Kevin Cossom, Danja & The Incredible Lago]

Don't Hold Your Breath [???] -> Keri Hilson & Timbaland -> Nicole Scherzinger
[Toby Gad, Billy Steinberg & Josh Alexander]

Fool For You [???]
[Amanda Perkins, ..., Full Scale]

Girl I'll Never Be [???]
[The Writing Camp, ...]

Hot Shot [Bran'Nu]
[Brandy, ...]

How High
[Brandy, Stacy Barthe, Book & Bronze]

I Don't Wanna Talk About It [???]
[Stacy Barthe, ..., Eric Hudson]

I'll Just Die [???]
[Stacy Barthe, ...]

In My Head / Make Believe
[Brandy, Stacy Barthe, Corey Chorus, Kadis & Sean]

It All Belongs To Me F/ Monica
[Rico Love, Earl Hood & E2]

Never Catch Me [???]
[Eric Bellinger, ..., Chuck Harmony]

One That Got Away -> Jasmine V
[..., Harmony 'H-Money' Samuels]
[Eric Bellinger] [???]

Silent Night
[Kadis & Sean]

Somebody Else -> Rico Love [???]
[Rico Love, Matt Corby, Benny Blanco, RoboPop & Jake One]

Take It Personal [???]
[..., Soundz]

Toy Soldier [???] -> Keri Hilson
[Ester Dean, The Incredible Lago, Danja]

Vibrant [Bran'nu]
[Brandy, ..., Babyface]

Wicked
[Sevyn Streeter, Priya Jay, Jordan Baum, Michael McNamara]

Wish We Could Go Back] [???]
[Le'che Martin, ...]

TBD
[Frank Ocean, LaShawn Daniels, ..., MIDI Mafia]

TBD
[Ne-Yo, ..., StarGate]

TBD
[Ester Dean, Traci Hale, ...]

TBD
[..., DarkChild]




2018 TBD

Beggin & Pleadin'
[Brandy, Kirby Lauryen, Oak, Pop & Flip]
Samples "Boom Boomb" by John Lee Hooker
[John Lee Hooker]

Dangerous Minds
[Brandy, Varren Wade, DJ Camper]

Southern Cali [???] -> Kelly Rowland
[Rock City, ...]


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Didn't realise how much she'd recorded for Escape until I started hunting! Let me know if you know of anything else Smile
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Post by Otaku on Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:26 pm

Are all those Big Bert songs confirmed to be Brandy tracks? Not just the random unreleased ones but also the Kiley Dean ones? Did Gold Digger leak? I don't think I have that although it sounds vaguely familar as a Kiley Dean song.

What about Second Thought & Take Me Back? Or are those supposed to be from the Bryan-Michael Cox album? Oh also Never Too Far that Olivia recorded must've been from the same era?

There's a LaShawn track

She Can't Be Me
[LaShawn Daniels, Chingy, The Trak Starz]

It's written for Toni Braxton [very obvious from the lyrics] but registered as a Brandy track pre-Afrodisiac.

As for Afrodisiac:

There's the Candice / Walt / Tim song "Wish I Never Met U"

There are more unconfirmed Tim tracks, from memory Bones, Horizon, Losing Control, Silence...they were always debatable but so was Hush before the demo leaked years later.

I think Black Pepper / B-Rocken got reworked into Keri's album Intro BTW.

La La Land is Static, there's a demo.

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:53 pm

No those last few are unconfirmed I've added them just in case as its very likely.

Ahh great that LaShawn track is always dumped in Human online.

We never got the eras for those two, Second Though sounds so much like Darkchild Full Moon era I still hope it is. B. Cox after Human we only got a few? just before StarGate Rocnation. Didn't she also plan an album with Brian Kennedy in between this too?

Wow that's awesome what made you think that? I love that intro.
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Post by Otaku on Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:26 pm

'Lots' of old tracks leaked around the time Human came out and people assumed they were new when they clearly weren't.

But the B-M Cox album was like the earliest incarnation [for the sake of convenience, as far as is known] of Human, not post-Human ? I consider that a different album from Human since nothing made the cut. After the B-M Cox album came the BK album, a few of which still made the cut. So I do consider all those Frank Ocean / James / Frankie tracks part of Human.

It's confirmed that Keri took the beat to Black Pepper for a song for her album, the production may have been updated a bit but overall it sounds an awful lot older than most of Tim's stuff on there, Keri even sounds kinda young on it. I can't say for sure but it's kind of the same style as Sirens and all.

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Ahh I see so bcox then BK then dark child? We got an album worth of BK but hardly any B Cox Sad

Ahh I see well it has to be that then as everything else was new Timbaland sound. That beat to Intuition still knocks that track made me WOW
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Post by Otaku on Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:51 pm

Actually now that I think of it the BM Cox album would be at least the second incarnation because there's the whole apparent shitload of Kenisha Pratt / Maximum Risk tracks before that. So it's Maximum Risk -> B-M Cox -> BK -> DarkChild.

Yeah Intuition and some of the other slower Tim songs were a bit older too but not like 2003 old obviously.

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 15, 2017 4:56 pm

Oh Jesus imagine a whole album with them think that must have been her trying to go independent. I love Kenisha but Brandy is actually a better writer than her(proven on Escape) so she should have just written own with them. Love how they got her to record an anthem for them id so do that if I had brandy there haha

Yeah that album was years recording just like this one now! We thought we'd never get it. Anything with an ethnic sample from Tim gets my Vote

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Post by Otaku on Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:08 pm

I don't know if it was ever supposed to be a whole album but we have a good bunch of tracks, there are dozens registered. Who knows if she actually recorded them all, but I'm guessing they were just recording for a few weeks or something. At the very least there was basically an album before she went in with BM Cox.

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:13 pm

Yeah exactly like I say that must have been when she was in between deals as she finally got an album out when she went major with Human. Those tracks were probably cheap AF haha

Guessing B Cox and BK were also trying to set up some sort of label deal thing.

Still so sad Stargate didn't work out without even a single release, press release or some artwork or something.. So glad we got the tracks though bet we don't even have half of them though. Wonder who else she worked with if she managed to get any other RN people on there.
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Post by Otaku on Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:39 pm

Wasn't Louboutins pretty much set to be released? Not a StarGate track obviously but it was the RN era. I always wonder just what went down there, Amanda Ghost was obviously meddling with that album quite a bit and yet she dropped her not long after...

She also recorded with Ne-Yo & StarGate for Two Eleven, I've never really looked into it specifically, maybe we have a demo for that.

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I don't think so? I thought that leaked way later? Probably Amanda Ghost then if she was overseeing it under Epic I thought SG would have some say. Didn't Shakira say she hated her and didn't that annoying Sara Bareilles bitch write a song about her?

Wow no way? I thought 2/11 was on the cheap I know it was major label but definitely small time still. Any other collabos for 2/11? Candice said she thinks she was going to place her track [was it Nodding Off?] that got removed by the release. Love that album though: Slower was epic, even Sean Garrett did good and I love Rico Love with female artists. Also Danja was so random and exciting on there.
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Post by Otaku on Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:54 pm

Nah man she was working with StarGate in 2009, she left Epic midway through that year so after that it was available for JLo to release towards the end of the year. StarGate were just a logical move as main producers but she was still working with other people around that time. There's at least James' Tell Me You Didn't, Claude's Disappear & Time Stood Still that came out around that time and I'm pretty sure were written for that album.

I dunno, I doubt StarGate had much of a say in Amanda's doings, even if they were one of the few people she did seem to have a good relationship with.

I dunno if Shakira hates her, her fans certainly do. They blame her for She Wolf tanking because she delayed it last minute to add the Timbaland track when it was already pressed etc. I dunno about Sara Bareilles haha but she's lame as fuck...

She was ridiculously involved with the actual recording processed [as was obvious with inserting herself in the most random sessions for Brandy, Shakira, JLo, Livvi etc] and had artists work with 'her artists' [Ian Dench, Dave McCracken, Hugo, Scott McFarnon, Daniel Merriweather]. She apparently expected that everybody be 420 friendly during sessions and was very temperamental, she'd be throwing CDs around the room during meetings and stuff. I have also read from people working at Epic saying it really wasn't as bad as people made it out to be. I guess the truth lies somewhere in the middle, I reckon some people were just a little squeamish about her because these days the music industry is very bureaucratic and sort of PC. But she does kind of give me borderline vibes.

Poor StarGate though, I know working with Brandy was like their main dream...I asked Tor once if they had favorite tracks and they all had some different ones but collectively they were most proud of the Brandy remixes they did and how much they were into Full Moon that came out not long before that. They've obviously had tons of sessions with her but not one proper release.

Yeah Brandy mentioned working with them in an interview not too long before it came out [so it wasn't like they recorded 'some time' after the RN nation, it was definitely part of that deal and a contender for the album etc].

Two Eleven was by no means bad but only Slower and Scared Of Beautiful and to a lesser extent Can You Hear Me Now really stood out to me. It was more of a solid album than an album with a good number of great tracks whereas NSN/FM/Afrodisiac were sort of both. It was kind of stripped, bare-sounding, very low on melody production-wise for Brandy. I would've loved it if Keri's Toy Soldier was on there for instance [I suspect that might've been written for Brandy].

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Post by Admin on Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:09 pm

That Tim track was so random but I loved it and the fact Amanda/Shakira writing on a Tim beat was so random too. Plus the video was awful but the live perfomances were EPIC

Ahh I see I remember you saying now, I'm glad she brought Hugo for the Beyonce project that's one of my favourite tracks wish we heard more of his songwriting at least especially with James, that was a really cool combo.

I love women like that though, that just makes me like her more. Plus she's friends with Boy George who's a total bitch too and I idolise him. Also Daniel Merriweather I rediscovered his album the other day. How pissed off must he be that Sam Smith is selling millions with his exact sound and formula? He even duetted with the 'female Sam Smith' Adele, then she stole his sound too haha

I remember you saying there were so proud to work with Brandy but with their money I would get the album out regardless even if it sold one copy I'd want it out there at least on digital and not all over youtube. I wonder what else was recorded for it would love to know. [maybe it was just SG tracks with loads of different writers like Range and Alexis]

Yeah I know what you mean I loved the intro and outro and the fact she used Mike City it really gave it an album feel even with loads of different producers [which she's never really done before] I liked a lot of individual tracks though especially: Slower, Paint This House, Can U Hear Me Now and So Sick.

She always delivers I think it must be impossible to get a bad track with Brandy, there's certain people like her and Britney who are just so professional and perfectionist. Even Rihanna and Beyonce I daresay..
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Post by Otaku on Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:42 pm

I honestly don't even know what it sounds like so just listened to it again, it sounds nothing like a Shakira song lol

Disappear wasn't written specifically for Beyoncé though, Hugo's version was around way before that. Satellites was release by Amanda herself too.

She's written some great songs but a lot of them are super crap too. I'd love to hear that Britney/B&A song though and I wish we'd get the missing known StarGate tracks someday though.

Well they hadn't worked with Brandy yet at that point, just the remixes to Another Day In Paradise. This was like 15 years ago. Well Epic owned the material for the time being. I'm sure the album would've been like 80% StarGate but there's no doubt she recorded with other people, she tweeted back & forth with Claude about him writing new tracks for her & Louboutins proves it. Her departure from Epic & RN was pretty much simultaneous. I didn't like the fact that we got so many old songs out of those Brandy sessions, at least half of them weren't specifically for her or very new. So we got a whole bunch of Ne-Yo tracks & spitbacks when they were working lots with Ester, LaShawn and lots of different people.

Right but out of those people Britney & Rihanna at least have albums that may have a or some main producer[s] but mostly depend on having all the biggest people writing for them and picking up the best spitbacks etc, so it's much more song-oriented. Beyoncé's last albums have been much more album-format so to speak and like I said Brandy is sort of 'supposed' to have the best of both worlds, a long album with a main producer but also a decent bunch of 'outside tracks' with an allround great album that also has plenty of memmorable individual songs. And even if it had like the best promotion imaginable, all in all Two Eleven's songs just aren't writing history.

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Post by Admin on Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:27 pm

I know it was so random I love it though her and Amanda did really well on the writing.

I love most of what I heard I'm so glad we got to hear her do pop writing and also her demos too. What did she do for Britney? We need a Circus post at the least that's probably the one we have most cool stuff for?

Its really annoying we didn't get ANY StarGate with James, Ester or even LaShawn [unless they were on a break at the time guessing she didn't talk to him or Fred as well as Rodney when they fell out]

Oh yeah of course they get the best and the first choice on everything plus people will make twice the effort on their demos for their projects but Britney at least has always been said to be an absolute pro in the studio.

Brandy impresses me most because she can make a shit track good and obviously she doesn't get offered all the best stuff anymore and still makes good albums. Its the same with writers like Makeba, it doesn't matter how shit the beat is she's got she always manages to write fire on it. Been listening to all her demos recently some of them are pretty much a basic drumline and she still sounds amazing.
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Post by Otaku on Sun Sep 17, 2017 3:58 pm

I'm sort of neutral about Give It Up To Me, not my kind of track.

She worked on Circus, there's a B&A song she did with Ian that's obviously for Britney, There might be more with other producers but no real 'suspicious' titles / collabos as far as I can remember.

I'm pretty sure Brandy/James/StarGate sessions were confirmed. I'm guessing Love Part 2 was written for her [or maybe Beyoncé], there's probably something by all of them though. LaShawn wasn't very involved with DarkChild at that point, he was working with StarGate, Harvey Mason Jr & random stuff with Makeba a lot at the time and DarkChild with Priscilla & Kalenna etc. I didn't know they really fell out, what's the story? Doesn't she have a feud with TC now as well? I love Brandy but she's obviously not the easiest person to work with.

Been working a bit on Brandy's discog, what a chore...I knew I had some more Tim titles that are pretty much confirmed [a bunch written by Kenisha & K-Young] and I found those at least. I should be somewhat close to finishing that discog up for now so I'll post it when I'm done.

Well I wasn't talking about dedication or profesionalism etc, just the way their albums turn out in terms of overall quality and catchy track to put it simply. Britney & Rihanna album tend to be a lot more diverse and are unlikely to be loved in full by people simply because not everything is everyone's cup of tea, even for big fans [that do still have some sense of criticism].

Yeah wish we got more Makeba stuff, her placements have been far between and super random the past few years. Would still love to hear that stuff she did with Soulshock like 6 yeas ago the way they acted like they were making the hottest shit in the world, there must be a good bunch of tracks Sad

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She has a massive feud with TC read their posts she was brutal haha Yeah but she fell out with Darkchild way before that when she left that team with Robert Smith to do Escape, I don't know what the story was but there was definitely something as it was a big thing when they reunited for Human [then they fell out again apparently] Yeah she seems like a total bitch, she's been horrivle to Monica again but I love bitches and she has the vocals to back it up haha

Awesome can't wait to see it, she always seems to record 100s, Human was one of our biggest too IIRC

Yeah I probably prefer Britney and Rihanna to do that as they have always done loads of great tracks together as opposed to 'an album' the only 'album' I can think of for Britney is Femme Fatale which if you're gonna do a full album with someone it should be Dr Luke and Max Martin it was epic

I'm hoping Makeba is rich enough off Beyonce and Rihanna and not that she doesn't get placements as if she doesn't that's a travesty. She's one of the few writers I can listen to her demos like an album. Even people like Ne-Yo have some boring ass tracks if the beat isn't strong, Makeba is so consistent.
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Post by Otaku on Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:07 pm

Yeah I was talking about post-Human, I didn't know that? She at least worked with LaShawn in 2010 [w/ Frank Ocean & MIDI Mafia] though.

My favorite Britney era is Circus though hands down though collabowise and all.

Yeah surely she must be alright, she's had some massive hits worldwide. There's tons of boring ass Ne-Yo tracks, most of them I've probably never even heard in full, I'm probably missing dozens too.

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Post by Otaku on Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:40 am

Well I finally...no regular album tracks etc yet but oh well. Some tracks are hard to tell like Second Thought & Take Me Back. I reckon the Mike City Afrodisiac tracks might technically be for Escape etc [was that ever the album title BTW?].

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This is fantastic, thank you! I always hoped Parachute was the James/Hillary Lee Lindsey track but I'm happy to take Frank Ocean!

No was never confirmed that title but I love ESCAPE and SUPREME as the titles that's why I did the covers with them. Plus the Escape one goes well with the art I used and the concept of the album Smile
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Post by Otaku on Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:22 pm

Nah those Nashville collabos didn't happen until 2009 I think and Brandy's sessions with Brian Kennedy took place in 2007.

Parachute is most likely a Marié Digby track, there should be at least 1 James track.

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BTW Josh once told us how many songs Candice did for this album and more or less in what formation Clutch-wise. I think it was 1 with James [Idiot Believer], 1 with just Bale'wa & 2 or 3 Clutch tracks, something like that, right? Do you remember at all or have that info down somewhere?

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Ahh I see that would be amazing with Marie though that album is one of my favourites OAT such an amazing concept and so well executed

No I don’t remember it was a total surprise when I saw Clutch they’re now my most wanted Clutch tracks haha

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Post by Otaku on Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:18 pm

Really? I clearly remember him telling us in a mail but I can't remember exactly. It was a while before Idiot Believer leaked too.

I saw that I forgot some stuff for the Human sessions that I forgot about like Kara. I always assumed that was probably with DarkChild and/or with Hit-Boy & Chase N Cashe but apparently she was working with James & The Underdogs [Harvey] at the same time. And I also kinda thought that their tracks together [Kara / KC Livingston / James / Steve Russell / Harvey Mason Jr & Rob Knox] were all for Britney initially. Someone [James or Harvey or Rob, can't remember] once said they did about 3 more Britney tracks so I figured that would complete the bunch. But maybe they weren't, I'm pretty sure Walls Up was but Hero & Idiot could be for Brandy. I guess I'll have to listen again closely some time.

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