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Post by Otaku on Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:21 pm

I dunno, I hadn't considered the option of it being for someone else, cause there's literally like 1 or 2 Katy lines right? It does almost sound more like Gwen, so maybe it was for her. On the other hand I figure if anything Starrah is most likely to write at least the melodies of the vocals, I assume that's what people mainly hire her for.

Yeah I'll do a Tinashe post some time

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Post by Admin on Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:24 pm

I was just thinking the hook and even just some of the Pharrell parts because it sounds so much like Gwen and he's a master at her 'voice' now. Maybe Starrah did additional writing I hope so anyway I'd love to imagine a Gwen version out there and she was on Calvin's last album [guessing that was a remix from her Tedder/Blanco sessions]

Awesome, its such a shame half her stuff isn't registered I bet from her major label deal she has recorded 100s of interesting tracks. I'm still hoping for Max Martin/Dr Luke as they didn't say who produced on that 'Touch Pass' Wolf Cousins track [The Struts like Tove Lo?] and it already had songwriters/producers all over it. [Soaky Siren and T-Collar]
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Post by Otaku on Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:15 pm

Yeah it does, I've never listened to it much though, heard it on the radio a few times and stuff but I haven't listened to it with the thought of it being for anyone else at all.

Joel Compass produced Touch Pass. He does a little bit of everything. I have no idea where the Wolf Cousins credit comes from? https://twitter.com/JoelCompass/status/794620892475195392 I doubt he suddenly got added or anything, he's Amanda Ghost's artist, isn't he? At least they work together a lot?

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Post by Admin on Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:20 pm

Oh that was it Joel and Soaky Siren, I have no idea where the Wolf Cousins came from it was posted on wiki and I guess they got it from the iTunes store metadata? just seems too random to be just added like that as no one mainstream even knows about the whole Wolf Cousins thing. I can only imagine they got The Struts or whoever is going by that name to do additional production as I think her sessions with Joel were ages ago [Fire and Flames with him has been registered a long time now]

I don't know a lot about him, that's cool if he is though. I've not heard much by him on writing, lots of things registered but nothing to make me a fan just yet.. I do LOVE Touch Pass though was my favourite from the album.
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Post by Otaku on Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:15 pm

iTunes doesn't usually list the producers though, just the writers, right? Well tracks like Player & Prisoner are often referred to as produced by Wolf Cousings, probably because they don't know exactly who is who and who is and isn't with Wolf Cousins.

It's never been revealed who they are EXACTLY but Tove Lo once said it was 6 producers and her, and she posted this pic too :

https://www.instagram.com/p/u4RBqupMCy/?modal=true

That must be outdated and I assume with 6 she counted teams as 1 but the original roster or whatever must have roughly been this :

Ali Payami
Ilya
Ludvig Söderberg
Mattman & Robin
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Shellback ??? [I assume he's with MXM?]

Ellie Goulding claimed to be part of it when she was recording her last album even though she's not fomally related in any way and there's no saying if other producers have been added meanwhile. But I'm guessing these were around longer and are published by MXM :

Alexander Kronlund
Joe Janiak
Laleh Pourkarim
Oscar Holter
Peter Svensson
Savan Kotecha
Style Of Eye

Also at least these members of Carolina Liar :

Johan Carlsson
Max Grahn -> least known out of the bunch but definitiely publised through Wolf Cousins
Peter Carlsson
Richard Göransson

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Post by Admin on Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:23 pm

That's awesome I love Max Martin's whole harem, he finds the most talented people who add different things to his tracks. I never realised who those 3 most known members of Carolina Liar were but loved every track he's had them on. There's only a few people doing this now the closest to this level is probablu Syco Music. What about Lukas Hilbert? [now Lulou] He's been working with Alexander Kronlund [now Alex Purple] all the time so could be?

Ellie Goulding can fuck off I loved her tracks with Max and her last couple of albums but how dare she claim to be part of the team haha Although her and Joe Janiak are both British so would be cool if he has added them even unofficially.

Anyway I can't see the credit just coming out of nowhere and she has said she's been in with 'Max Martin's team' at the very least so could easily be true for a reproduction later on. [like I say Fire and Flames and so I assume TOuch Pass were recorded a while back]
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Post by Otaku on Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:12 pm

Well, mostly the most talented people in Sweden that don't already have a publishing deal :p sure Joe Janiak & Savan Kotecha aren't Swedish but other than that I think they all are. Oh yeah I must've accidentally erased LuLou or something, I assume he's with MXM since he's been working with Max for a while, at least since GRL.

I think there might be 2 ways to look at Wolf Cousins - as a publisher and loosely as a collective, and the ones that he was already working with were simply already published by MXM. I think they were established by Max & Shellback, so maybe Shellback isn't technically a part of them at all since he's been around the longest [with Max, along with Alexander Kronlund but they obviously aren't as 'close', Shellback sort of replaced Rami so to speak].

I don't remember exactly what she said, she probably didn't phrase it like that. Maybe more like an honorary member or something. I wasn't blown away with her album, it had its fair share of dull moments and it obviously underperformed considering the names attached to it. I think Joe Janiak is just with MXM though. I suppose it's easy to find out, if Make Me is published by Wolf Cousins he is.

I dunno, it happens all the time. I just checked and the wiki source actually leads to that post of Joel's. So you're saying it's supposed to be [Tinashe, Rosina Russell, Joel Compass] with added credits by Soaky Siren & T-Collar and finally produced by someone from Wolf Cousins? It doesn't really sound anything like any of their tracks though, does it?

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